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Simply, if a person driving a vehicle kills a person on a motorcycle and it's proven that the motorcycle was doing nothing wrong, (non-cause of accident), should the driver of the car be charged?

If yes, post what you think they should be charged with.

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they should be charged with whatever they would be charged with if they hit a car or pedestrian and killed someone

mine may not be the popular opinion among motorcyclists, but we aren't any more or less important than anyone else

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Likewise I think that if the driver of the car was DUI there should be a much harsher punishment (and not just in cases against motorcyclists).

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I just think the punishment should fit the crime...as it stands right now, killing someone and only getting a failure to yeild ticket is not ok in my book.

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If you kill someone with a deadly weapon (car or other), you should go to jail for a long time. People don't take driving seriously enough.

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I think koorbloh's right on target. The part that bites now is that they get fail to yield when they would've gotten much worse if the victim had been walking or in a car.

That being said, it's insane to me that we allow cars to be used in a way where the level of danger is similar to pointing a gun at people or discharging it into the air. But we're hell on wheels when it comes to driving 5 mph over or using helmets/seatbelts.

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I cant even believe this thread...."Should they be charged"...

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gleno's case comes to mind in this thread...

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donbcivil

I wonder to what extent the law enforcement forum can help get something constructive going on this?

Maybe they don't even know motorcyclists feel there's a disparity in the way motorcyclists and drivers are treated re accidents, road rage, speed limit enforcement.

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to Koor.

You ride a motorcycle, you accept the increase in inherent risks while you're on the road.

Drivers shouldn't have to fear being punished any more for an accident with another road user, whether it be a bicyclist or a motorcycle.

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What should the driver be charged with?

What if the rider kills a passenger due to the rider's mistaken judgement?

What if a rider is at fault and kills a pedestrian or bicyclist?

The point is, operating machinery is inherently dangerous and potentially puts others at risk.

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I have to fully agree with this too.

Honestly, it's our choice to drive a vehicle that means an accident will more likely kill us than in a car. The car should be charged for what he would be charged for if he hit a car. He should be punished for what he did, not for the results (he cannot force us to be in a safer vehicle).

Now, if you want to argue they should make certian actions (like failing to yield) more serious period, that's a different arguement.

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It doesn't matter what you are driving or riding, if you are at fault and kill someone you should have charges against you.

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