Lake Stevens Rider RIP - Page 2

Ariadneo · 07-29-2008, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by verticgo383

Makes my eyes run......
The driver shouldn't walk away after taking a life. A life that included 2 little children and a wife that need him. The driver gets a "ticket"!!! Thats it?

From what she said it sounds like he didn't even get a ticket.

bukwld · 07-29-2008, 08:04 AM

ride planned Saturday.. Take a look please..

linky

Bo Yakima · 07-29-2008, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by Ariadneo

"Services will be at 1:00 p.m., on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 at Bauer Funeral Home in Snohomish, followed by a burial service at the Machias Cemetery."

I'll be there, but will most likely be in my cage. After some more thought I determined that I probaby wouldn't be a safe rider while feeling that much emotion.

A

Damit, too short of notice, I'm too far out.

Buck I was thinking more of a ride to the funeral, so much for that

bukwld · 07-29-2008, 08:12 AM

bo that is why i planned a memorial ride... too little time to plan ride to funeral.. and rain today..

so saturday was a good day i thought.. nice out, and hopefully people will want to attend for a rider, or just to ride..

Guff · 07-29-2008, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by kitty02

The rider was mu husband.I came accross this while looking for articals on the wreck.Here is the real story from the cops/a friend of min's neighbor who was behind ben,and a guy who saw it happen in front of his house.

Ben left about 6 pm to go get baby formula for our 5 month old...he just finished puting red underglow on his bike a few min before and i said well wait till night so you can show it off but he wanted to take care of it right then.I saw him pull out,look at his bike then look up and drive away...that was the last time i saw him...he was going down hwy 92 when a silverado driven by Donald Graves came to a ROLLING STOP..made and ILLEGAL LEFT TURN...NO BLINKER...and hit my husband.From what i heard he died instantly.The man gets out see my hubby dead on the ground and starts CURSEING him out cause he messed up his truck...then he tried to LEAVE THE SCENE...then LIED to the cops and said MY HUBBY made the turn...and the messed up part...he didnt get arrested or a ticket...he leaves behind a 2 yearold and a 5 month old.I saw him today...tomarrow is the funeral...thank you all for your prayers and please PLEASE be careful on your bikes...people like this man are insane.If you would like to see photos of ben and leave support our myspaces are:

myspace.com/sexy_kitn

and

myspace.com/osiberis

Wow, 2 witnesses and no charges are being filed!?

I hope you definitely contact the prosecuting attorney (link provided earlier in the thread) and demand justice. It might not happen, but you won't know until you try and they won't do it on their own. I'm very sorry to hear of your loss.

-Guff

Rev · 07-29-2008, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by verticgo383

Makes my eyes run......
The driver shouldn't walk away after taking a life. A life that included 2 little children and a wife that need him. The driver gets a "ticket"!!! Thats it?

He didn't get a ticket. I suspect that's SOP in these situations where an investigation is ongoing. It doesn't mean charges won't be filed at a later date.

Originally Posted by b.miller123

I saw in one of the other threads here about putting up signs like the ones for people who are killed by drunk drivers, talk to the county or city about that, I think it's a great idea. Or just go out and make your own sign and do it yourself (with the family's permission to use his name of course). Rest in peace fellow rider, rest in peace.

I initially came up with this idea. I need to do some research and see what it takes to make this happen.

Originally Posted by Ariadneo

"Services will be at 1:00 p.m., on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 at Bauer Funeral Home in Snohomish, followed by a burial service at the Machias Cemetery."

I'll be there, but will most likely be in my cage. After some more thought I determined that I probaby wouldn't be a safe rider while feeling that much emotion.

A

I will be there in spirit.

acerview77 · 07-29-2008, 10:21 AM

Someon in your blog mentioned that the name of
the asshole that caused this accident wasn't named.
His name is Donald Graves from Lake Stevens.
No one mentioned that Donald Graves who killed
Benjamin Salzano Jr tried to leave the scene and
then when stopped by wonderful witnesses tried
to lie his way out of it. My son is laying in front of
him dead he curses him for damaging his truck.
We have witnesses to all of this for those who
wanted to be neutral until the facts were shown.
Here they are.
Thank you to all those caring witnesses.
Jill Salzano

quiklids · 07-29-2008, 02:54 PM

Our thoughts and prayers are with the family and friends-

The county prosecuter apparently needs to be reminded that this is a CRIME, not an accident, and should be treated as such-

sgtjimbo · 07-29-2008, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by bukwld360

bo that is why i planned a memorial ride... too little time to plan ride to funeral.. and rain today..

so saturday was a good day i thought.. nice out, and hopefully people will want to attend for a rider, or just to ride..

THE LINK doesnt work ... where are weall meeting onsat an what tie?

ckender · 07-29-2008, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by sgtjimbo

THE LINK doesnt work ... where are weall meeting onsat an what tie?

Here you go Sarge: http://www.pnwriders.com/westside/80...-8-2-08-a.html

MYBUSA30 · 07-29-2008, 07:27 PM

I will be joining this ride and i hope alot more show up..... MY PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU AND YOUR FAMILY

Ariadneo · 07-29-2008, 08:04 PM

I attended the funeral service today. It was very touching. So sad to see such an obviously fun young man with so much ahead of him.......just....gone. Everyone there was genuinely filled with sorrow. He was taken from a beautiful family and circle of friends and will genuinely missed. Tears refuse to stop. :(

sk8rgrl · 07-29-2008, 08:14 PM

My thoughts and prayers are with him and his family.

SpeedTriple1 · 07-30-2008, 10:08 AM

I can only wish the best for your family and hope that you are all doing well, if you are to need anything for the children please done hesitate to give me a pm I will help out as much as possible. I know this is a horrible time and any help my family is able to give please let us know.

Reaper48 · 07-30-2008, 11:23 AM

My thoughts are with you and yours at this time .... your pain and loss is felt by all that know and rode with him ... and the ones that didnt ... as a new member of PNW I have found that we are all family ... we all have lost a brother and friend ...

Ryder · 07-30-2008, 12:24 PM

Prayers out to the fams and friends.

RedRider21 · 07-30-2008, 12:28 PM

quiklids · 07-30-2008, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by bukwld360

When the

are the WSP gonna pull their head outta their ass and charge this guy with manslaughter or something.

Another rider killed and this wasn't even their fault. Just someone going somewhere and probably never knew what happened.. This makes me sick that someone does something like this..

RIP Rider

I contacted the Snohomish County prosecuters office by email. The administrators office forwarded my message to the Criminal Division, and they also responded. So far, they said if the case is vehicular homicide that they wouldn't have it so soon, and the investigation would be ongoing. When and if they do get the case, it would be reviewed by the prosecutor for charging.

Let these people know that WE CARE!!!!!!

Cooley · 07-30-2008, 02:48 PM

Thoughts and Prayers with rider, family & friends.

RC51 · 07-31-2008, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by quiklids

I contacted the Snohomish County prosecuters office by email. The administrators office forwarded my message to the Criminal Division, and they also responded. So far, they said if the case is vehicular homicide that they wouldn't have it so soon, and the investigation would be ongoing. When and if they do get the case, it would be reviewed by the prosecutor for charging.

Let these people know that WE CARE!!!!!!

For those of you that are contacting these people, it's a fairly cut and dry case of vehicular homicide according to the RCW's:

(1) When the death of any person ensues within three years as a proximate result of injury proximately caused by the driving of any vehicle by any person, the driver is guilty of vehicular homicide if the driver was operating a motor vehicle:

(a) While under the influence of intoxicating liquor or any drug, as defined by RCW 46.61.502; or

(b) In a reckless manner; or

(c) With disregard for the safety of others.

(2) Vehicular homicide is a class A felony punishable under chapter 9A.20 RCW, except that, for a conviction under subsection (1)(a) of this section, an additional two years shall be added to the sentence for each prior offense as defined in RCW 46.61.5055.

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=46.61.520

The more people that contact them, the better chances that this jerk gets what he deserves.

02gixxer · 07-31-2008, 07:10 PM

RIP rider

Best wishes to wife, family and friends. So very sad...

Get this guy with everything you can. His actions are totally unacceptable..

David Davenport · 07-31-2008, 07:28 PM

Hope everybody is this cool when I die on my Bike. I'm impressed
all this Care. WOW...

ckender · 07-31-2008, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by David Davenport

Hope everybody is this cool if I die on my Bike. I'm impressed
all this Care. WOW...

Fixed it for you.

Don't jinx yourself lad.

Kresto · 07-31-2008, 09:27 PM

My condolenses to family and friends. This truly is a loss to all involved.

Best wishes

ezridr · 08-02-2008, 10:56 AM

I think most people are missing the point trying to get the police or prosecutor to charge the "didn't see the motorcyclist drivers" with a crime. I believe the only to begin to see change is through lawsuits. Hit the idiots where it hurts sue them for all they are worth. While it is negligent the law isn't going to be changed by the legislators, many old, don't ride probably might be guilty of it some day themselves and don't want to be incriminated by their own actions. Motorcyclists are probably seen as a careless breed that get what they may deserve.

Sticks n Stones · 08-02-2008, 02:01 PM

Don't know about you all, but I get the distinct feeling that this fallen riders bike needs to get rebuilt, by US, and his wife needs to be taught how to ride.

Even if she only rides it around town and stays away from the 55mph or faster roads (all things considered, we couldn't blame her).

Think about it: every time she rides it, she will feel like he's with her in spirit and smiling down on her. There is NOTHING we could do that would have more meaning IMO.

If the bike is beyond repair, we pull off the custom stuff he put on it and install it on a used same year/color bike. Wouldn't you all want that?

I'll be the first to donate. $100 now, more to come later. I have zero doubt that KRUKOV would take on the task of assembling/repairing it, if he's too busy I'll do it myself. As a former 250 Ninja owner, I could do it in my sleep.

Give me your input, if it looks possible I'll start a new thread. If someone could contact his wife or relatives to setup a paypal account to accept the funds it would be much appreciated.

The person who donates the most would also have the honor of leading the ride of honor when she gets the bike and learns it enough to join.

$5, $10, whatever, this aint church and we wont be keeping track - you can be annonymous if you choose.

ckender · 08-02-2008, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones

Don't know about you all, but I get the distinct feeling that this fallen riders bike needs to get rebuilt, by US, and his wife needs to be taught how to ride.

Even if she only rides it around town and stays away from the 55mph or faster roads (all things considered, we couldn't blame her).

Think about it: every time she rides it, she will feel like he's with her in spirit and smiling down on her. There is NOTHING we could do that would have more meaning IMO.

If the bike is beyond repair, we pull off the custom stuff he put on it and install it on a used same year/color bike. Wouldn't you all want that?

I'll be the first to donate. $100 now, more to come later. I have zero doubt that KRUKOV would take on the task of assembling/repairing it, if he's too busy I'll do it myself. As a former 250 Ninja owner, I could do it in my sleep.

Give me your input, if it looks possible I'll start a new thread. If someone could contact his wife or relatives to setup a paypal account to accept the funds it would be much appreciated.

The person who donates the most would also have the honor of leading the ride of honor when she gets the bike and learns it enough to join.

$5, $10, whatever, this aint church and we wont be keeping track - you can be annonymous if you choose.

I almost brought up this very idea at the memorial ride today.

bukwld · 08-02-2008, 09:30 PM

this is something that was running through my mind today as we were riding. I'll bring it up to her and see what she thinks..

Ariadneo · 08-02-2008, 09:48 PM


07-29-2008, 10:21 AM	#47
acerview77 Newbie Joined: Jul 2008 From: snohomish, wa	hwy 92 and 127th motocycle fatality Someon in your blog mentioned that the name of the asshole that caused this accident wasn't named. His name is Donald Graves from Lake Stevens. No one mentioned that Donald Graves who killed Benjamin Salzano Jr tried to leave the scene and then when stopped by wonderful witnesses tried to lie his way out of it. My son is laying in front of him dead he curses him for damaging his truck. We have witnesses to all of this for those who wanted to be neutral until the facts were shown. Here they are. Thank you to all those caring witnesses. Jill Salzano


07-30-2008, 11:23 AM	#55
Reaper48 Endorsed Joined: May 2008 From: Olympia WA I Ride: 1100 Custom (2007)	My thoughts are with you and yours at this time .... your pain and loss is felt by all that know and rode with him ... and the ones that didnt ... as a new member of PNW I have found that we are all family ... we all have lost a brother and friend ... Last edited by Reaper48; 07-30-2008 at 11:25 AM.. Reason: Bad spelling


08-02-2008, 09:48 PM	#69
Ariadneo Training Wheels Joined: Apr 2008 From: Granite Falls, WA I Ride: my own ride	bump


07-29-2008, 08:04 AM	#42
bukwld Mofo Dr. Phil of PNW Joined: Sep 2007 From: Everett, WA I Ride: ride?? it's winter time, we don't ride in the winter, or do we??	ride planned Saturday.. Take a look please.. linky


07-29-2008, 08:12 AM	#44
bukwld Mofo Dr. Phil of PNW Joined: Sep 2007 From: Everett, WA I Ride: ride?? it's winter time, we don't ride in the winter, or do we??	bo that is why i planned a memorial ride... too little time to plan ride to funeral.. and rain today.. so saturday was a good day i thought.. nice out, and hopefully people will want to attend for a rider, or just to ride..


07-29-2008, 02:54 PM	#48
quiklids Training Wheels Joined: May 2007 From: Snohomish I Ride: '03 Suzuki SV1K	Our thoughts and prayers are with the family and friends- The county prosecuter apparently needs to be reminded that this is a CRIME, not an accident, and should be treated as such-


07-29-2008, 07:27 PM	#51
MYBUSA30 Pit Crew Joined: Jun 2008 From: Graham I Ride: 05 Hayabusa GSX1300R	I will be joining this ride and i hope alot more show up..... MY PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU AND YOUR FAMILY


07-29-2008, 08:04 PM	#52
Ariadneo Training Wheels Joined: Apr 2008 From: Granite Falls, WA I Ride: my own ride	I attended the funeral service today. It was very touching. So sad to see such an obviously fun young man with so much ahead of him.......just....gone. Everyone there was genuinely filled with sorrow. He was taken from a beautiful family and circle of friends and will genuinely missed. Tears refuse to stop. :(


07-29-2008, 08:14 PM	#53
sk8rgrl Pit Crew Joined: Jun 2007 From: Olympia, WA I Ride: with heated grips	My thoughts and prayers are with him and his family.


07-30-2008, 10:08 AM	#54
SpeedTriple1 Endorsed Joined: Jun 2008 From: Tacoma I Ride: Speed Triple	I can only wish the best for your family and hope that you are all doing well, if you are to need anything for the children please done hesitate to give me a pm I will help out as much as possible. I know this is a horrible time and any help my family is able to give please let us know.


07-30-2008, 12:24 PM	#56
Ryder Pit Crew Joined: Mar 2008 From: why, Huh? I Ride: ZZR (Ninja)	Prayers out to the fams and friends.


07-30-2008, 12:28 PM	#57
RedRider21 Training Wheels Joined: Apr 2008 From: Spokane WA I Ride: 2006 CBR 1000RR and a 1966 CL77 305 Scrambler	RIP


07-30-2008, 02:48 PM	#59
Cooley Superbiker Joined: Mar 2008 From: Portland/LA - But lives in Seattle. I Ride: in the rain, because falling down can be fun.	Thoughts and Prayers with rider, family & friends.


07-31-2008, 07:10 PM	#61
02gixxer Zone Head Joined: May 2007 From: 360 I Ride: GSX-R 750, Ktm 625 SMC, project-96 zx6r	RIP rider Best wishes to wife, family and friends. So very sad... Get this guy with everything you can. His actions are totally unacceptable..


07-31-2008, 07:28 PM	#62
David Davenport Street Rider Joined: Jul 2007 From: Everett, WA. I Ride: 1998 Honda Nighthawk cb750	Hope everybody is this cool when I die on my Bike. I'm impressed all this Care. WOW...


07-31-2008, 09:27 PM	#64
Kresto Streetfighter Joined: Jun 2007 From: Tenino WA I Ride: Dorky GreenMachine	My condolenses to family and friends. This truly is a loss to all involved. Best wishes


08-02-2008, 10:56 AM	#65
ezridr Newbie Joined: Jul 2008 From: beaverton I Ride: Kaw14	I think most people are missing the point trying to get the police or prosecutor to charge the "didn't see the motorcyclist drivers" with a crime. I believe the only to begin to see change is through lawsuits. Hit the idiots where it hurts sue them for all they are worth. While it is negligent the law isn't going to be changed by the legislators, many old, don't ride probably might be guilty of it some day themselves and don't want to be incriminated by their own actions. Motorcyclists are probably seen as a careless breed that get what they may deserve.


08-02-2008, 02:01 PM	#66
Sticks n Stones Pit Crew Joined: May 2006 From: City of Snohomish, washington I Ride: '06 ZX-14, '02 TL1000R (sold), etc..	Don't know about you all, but I get the distinct feeling that this fallen riders bike needs to get rebuilt, by US, and his wife needs to be taught how to ride. Even if she only rides it around town and stays away from the 55mph or faster roads (all things considered, we couldn't blame her). Think about it: every time she rides it, she will feel like he's with her in spirit and smiling down on her. There is NOTHING we could do that would have more meaning IMO. If the bike is beyond repair, we pull off the custom stuff he put on it and install it on a used same year/color bike. Wouldn't you all want that? I'll be the first to donate. $100 now, more to come later. I have zero doubt that KRUKOV would take on the task of assembling/repairing it, if he's too busy I'll do it myself. As a former 250 Ninja owner, I could do it in my sleep. Give me your input, if it looks possible I'll start a new thread. If someone could contact his wife or relatives to setup a paypal account to accept the funds it would be much appreciated. The person who donates the most would also have the honor of leading the ride of honor when she gets the bike and learns it enough to join. $5, $10, whatever, this aint church and we wont be keeping track - you can be annonymous if you choose.


08-02-2008, 09:30 PM	#68
bukwld Mofo Dr. Phil of PNW Joined: Sep 2007 From: Everett, WA I Ride: ride?? it's winter time, we don't ride in the winter, or do we??	this is something that was running through my mind today as we were riding. I'll bring it up to her and see what she thinks..