Question regarding 'test drives' and selling a bike.

Kruzen · 08-21-2008, 10:14 AM

Hey there everyone

Haven't been on in a bit. Hope all is well.

I'm looking at selling my bike right now and I've got a few people interested but all of them of course want to take the bike out for a test drive. Some of these people are new riders, some of them experienced. The bottom line is, I have a $500 deductable on my insurance policy in case they go down.

Mostly I'm wondering what kind of legal release forms I can print up and have them sign that would protect me as the bike owner when letting people test drive the bike.

Ideally I would like to put all responsibility in their hands, and if they down the bike, it doesn't touch my insurance at all, and they assume full responsibility for the crash and need to pay me ASAP so I can pay off my loan and all of that.

Does anyone have any advice to offer on such a situation?

Guff · 08-21-2008, 10:18 AM

No idea personally, but maybe ask someone who works at a dealership what kind of paperwork they have... essentially just change their paperwork so instead of the name of their business it's your name???

-Guff

DogoZX · 08-21-2008, 10:23 AM

Full cash deposit in hand. They drop it, they bought it. Any written contract is gonna be a pain in the a** to get paid. You would probably end up claiming it on your insurance and eating the deductable just to avoid the hassle. You're selling a Ninja 250? They're such a hot commodity right now that the first person to show will probably just hand over the cash as soon as they hear it run. I just sold one.

Kruzen · 08-21-2008, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by DogoZX

Full cash deposit in hand. They drop it, they bought it. Any written contract is gonna be a pain in the a** to get paid. You would probably end up claiming it on your insurance and eating the deductable just to avoid the hassle. You're selling a Ninja 250? They're such a hot commodity right now that the first person to show will probably just hand over the cash as soon as they hear it run. I just sold one.

How much did you manage to get rid of yours for?

I've been getting alot of interest and then people just sort of dissappear. This is my third time re-listing the bike and I'm yet to have anyone even come look at the damn thing and it only has 750 miles on it. Been listing it for $3k and hoping people will underbid a bit.

tokin · 08-21-2008, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by Kruzen

How much did you manage to get rid of yours for?

I've been getting alot of interest and then people just sort of dissappear. This is my third time re-listing the bike and I'm yet to have anyone even come look at the damn thing and it only has 750 miles on it. Been listing it for $3k and hoping people will underbid a bit.

Have you listed it on PNW?

Kruzen · 08-21-2008, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by tokin

Have you listed it on PNW?

Yeah a bunch of jews offered me like 2300 for it before even coming out to see it since it was back in june.

edit: Maybe I didn't. I think that was just one guy. Oh well. I should list it here.

tokin · 08-21-2008, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by Kruzen

Yeah a bunch of jews offered me like 2300 for it before even coming out to see it since it was back in june.

edit: Maybe I didn't. I think that was just one guy. Oh well. I should list it here.

shit I dunno

I've never privately sold a bike. I've privately purchased a bike for track use but that's easy.

clt750 · 08-21-2008, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by Kruzen

Yeah a bunch of jews offered me like 2300 for it before even coming out to see it since it was back in june.

edit: Maybe I didn't. I think that was just one guy. Oh well. I should list it here.

Here we go with the "race issue" again. I am not Jewish I just find it funny that people always refer to jewish people as being cheap. I have a friend who is as white as can be, non religous, and he pulls that kind of crap when he trys to haggle with people on price. I think it is because he's from Ohio.

Kruzen · 08-21-2008, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by clt750

Here we go with the "race issue" again. I am not Jewish I just find it funny that people always refer to jewish people as being cheap. I have a friend who is as white as can be, non religous, and he pulls that kind of crap when he trys to haggle with people on price. I think it is because he's from Ohio.

Honestly most Jewish people I happen to know are balls deep in cash money and spent it carefree, for some reason the term has stuck with me over time. I really should stop using it. :p

ZXWUT? · 08-21-2008, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by clt750

Here we go with the "race issue" again. I am not Jewish I just find it funny that people always refer to jewish people as being cheap. I have a friend who is as white as can be, non religous, and he pulls that kind of crap when he trys to haggle with people on price. I think it is because he's from Ohio.

Jewish race? They must be from Jewland.

So many people are overly sensitive towards racism. I tell my buddy Ben (the nose) that he's jewish all the time because he is. He doesn't seem to have a problem with it. It's like when you say something about a black and a white person hears it and says that it offends them. Confuses the hell out of me lol. Whites were never slaves over meah!

VusRad · 08-21-2008, 11:11 AM

full cash in hand or else they can watch me ride it in the parking lot.

clt750 · 08-21-2008, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by ZXWUT?

Jewish race? They must be from Jewland.

So many people are overly sensitive towards racism. I tell my buddy Ben (the nose) that he's jewish all the time because he is. He doesn't seem to have a problem with it. It's like when you say something about a black and a white person hears it and says that it offends them. Confuses the hell out of me lol. Whites were never slaves over meah!

Ok.... you know what I mean. I believe Jewland is called Israel. Did I spell that right? The only thing you need to be worried about right now is the roofers next door secretly placing nails under your tires.

ZXWUT? · 08-21-2008, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by clt750

Ok.... you know what I mean. I believe Jewland is called Israel. Did I spell that right? The only thing you need to be worried about right now is the roofers next door secretly placing nails under your tires.

I didn't say they sabataged my bike lol. I said they're throwing shit all over the road instead of keeping it neat like a good roofer would. Anywho, no more thread jacking!!

I let my buddy Dan test ride my 01 busa before he bought it but I had the check in my hand before I let him give it a go. If he dropped it, it was his but if not and he didn't like it, I would have given him the check back. Fairly simple.

Estes · 08-21-2008, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by DogoZX

Full cash deposit in hand. They drop it, they bought it. Any written contract is gonna be a pain in the a** to get paid. You would probably end up claiming it on your insurance and eating the deductable just to avoid the hassle. You're selling a Ninja 250? They're such a hot commodity right now that the first person to show will probably just hand over the cash as soon as they hear it run. I just sold one.

Yea man, listen to DogoZX and the others. Do not let anyone ride it without the CASH in your hand. If they give you shit, then they most likely don't have the money.

clt750 · 08-21-2008, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by Estes

Yea man, listen to DogoZX and the others. Do not let anyone ride it without the CASH in your hand. If they give you shit, then they most likely don't have the money.

Agreed. If they become angry run them over with the bike they came to look at.
"SEE HOW WELL IT RUNS!!!"

tokin · 08-21-2008, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by clt750

Here we go with the "race issue" again. I am not Jewish I just find it funny that people always refer to jewish people as being cheap. I have a friend who is as white as can be, non religous, and he pulls that kind of crap when he trys to haggle with people on price. I think it is because he's from Ohio.

lol the bleeding hearts come out to play

wordsareforplay · 08-21-2008, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by tokin

lol the bleeding hearts come out to play

Quiet blackie.

ZXWUT? · 08-21-2008, 11:40 AM

Oh lordy, I'm so offended!!!

clt750 · 08-21-2008, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by tokin

lol the bleeding hearts come out to play

Hey Tokin, is that you in your Avatar, (I hate that word by the way) if so what is in your hand, (Condom?) and where has your buddies finger just been that is below your chin?

ODiE · 08-21-2008, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by clt750

Here we go with the "race issue" again. I am not Jewish I just find it funny that people always refer to jewish people as being cheap. I have a friend who is as white as can be, non religous, and he pulls that kind of crap when he trys to haggle with people on price. I think it is because he's from Ohio.

What are you talking about? All jews are cheap, all black people steal tv's (tokin!) and all white people have huge cocks..... Wait I'm I doing this right?

Kruzen · 08-21-2008, 11:40 AM

On the note of the full cash deposit, Is there any paperwork I need to have them sign that proves that the cash is mine if they down the bike, etc?

tokin · 08-21-2008, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by wordsareforplay

Quiet blackie.

clt750 · 08-21-2008, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by ODiE

What are you talking about? All jews are cheap, all black people steal tv's (tokin!) and all white people have huge cocks..... Wait I'm I doing this right?

Bravo!! That made me laugh really hard.

tokin · 08-21-2008, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by clt750

Hey Tokin, is that you in your Avatar, (I hate that word by the way) if so what is in your hand, (Condom?) and where has your buddies finger just been that is below your chin?

It's cash money son

bukwld · 08-21-2008, 11:42 AM

cash money up front to test ride.. or keys to their car.. whichever is easier.
you can always print up a release form stating that your not liable.. May not be totally legal, but it'll hold up in court...

and

ODiE · 08-21-2008, 11:42 AM

Jews killed jesus, for that they will all go to hell so enjoy your money and control over all the banks in the world and big noses but I'll be laughing when your in the fiery inferno for your ancestors sins.

wordsareforplay · 08-21-2008, 11:43 AM

clt750 · 08-21-2008, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by tokin

It's cash money son

Nice.... Papa. I thought we looked like each other.

I am sure Kruzen is really pleased that we have completely destroyed his thread.


08-21-2008, 10:14 AM	#1
Kruzen Pit Crew Joined: May 2007 From: Gig Harbor/Tacoma, WA I Ride: 07 Ninja 250R	Question regarding 'test drives' and selling a bike. Hey there everyone Haven't been on in a bit. Hope all is well. I'm looking at selling my bike right now and I've got a few people interested but all of them of course want to take the bike out for a test drive. Some of these people are new riders, some of them experienced. The bottom line is, I have a $500 deductable on my insurance policy in case they go down. Mostly I'm wondering what kind of legal release forms I can print up and have them sign that would protect me as the bike owner when letting people test drive the bike. Ideally I would like to put all responsibility in their hands, and if they down the bike, it doesn't touch my insurance at all, and they assume full responsibility for the crash and need to pay me ASAP so I can pay off my loan and all of that. Does anyone have any advice to offer on such a situation?


08-21-2008, 10:18 AM	#2
Guff Forum Administrator Joined: Sep 2004 From: Bellevue, WA I Ride: Blue R6 Decepticon	No idea personally, but maybe ask someone who works at a dealership what kind of paperwork they have... essentially just change their paperwork so instead of the name of their business it's your name??? -Guff


08-21-2008, 10:23 AM	#3
DogoZX Pit Crew Joined: Aug 2008 From: Olympia,WA I Ride: a zx14 like a stolen 600.	Full cash deposit in hand. They drop it, they bought it. Any written contract is gonna be a pain in the a** to get paid. You would probably end up claiming it on your insurance and eating the deductable just to avoid the hassle. You're selling a Ninja 250? They're such a hot commodity right now that the first person to show will probably just hand over the cash as soon as they hear it run. I just sold one.


08-21-2008, 11:11 AM	#11
VusRad Pit Crew Joined: May 2008 From: Eastside, WA I Ride: 750 SRAD	full cash in hand or else they can watch me ride it in the parking lot.


08-21-2008, 11:40 AM	#18
ZXWUT? Superbiker Joined: Sep 2007 From: Port Ludlow I Ride: wheeliez bigger than HeyTiffany on her own bike	Oh lordy, I'm so offended!!!


08-21-2008, 11:42 AM	#25
bukwld Mofo Dr. Phil of PNW Joined: Sep 2007 From: Everett, WA I Ride: ride?? it's winter time, we don't ride in the winter, or do we??	cash money up front to test ride.. or keys to their car.. whichever is easier. you can always print up a release form stating that your not liable.. May not be totally legal, but it'll hold up in court... and


08-21-2008, 11:42 AM	#26
ODiE Superbiker Joined: May 2007 From: Issaquah I Ride: Blue SV650S	Jews killed jesus, for that they will all go to hell so enjoy your money and control over all the banks in the world and big noses but I'll be laughing when your in the fiery inferno for your ancestors sins.


08-21-2008, 11:43 AM	#27
wordsareforplay At Banned Camp Joined: Aug 2006 From: Kirkland