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| Pit Crew Joined: May 2007 From: Somewhere In Wa I Ride: Yamaha | ![]()
1. Just like the person said above... With no bike there is no such thing as a Rider. But no Rider equals a pieces of metal and plastics that just dont do anything. 2. As far as rider input. It really depends on the companies... According to Valentino Rossi in his autobiography, He states that When he was with Honda, they didnt let him say much in the develop meant of the RC211 and whatever other bikes he rode while he was with Honda. Hence Thats why he wanted to move to a different company, since he wanted to give his 2cents. He also says that, Ducati is the same way. ITS ALL BASED ON DATA. so he said in a nutshell. Thats why he went to Yamaha. Cuz they were hurting really bad for a rider. And he gave his 2 cents and won the MotoGP his first year on the development of the M1. SO in conclusion... I think that we all can agree... that its all rider. Or wait... did we come to that conclusion? Kinda like... Olympic Athlete. They all do the same thing. But its just that one is normally better then all the rest... So yea... Thats my 2cents. Then again, who am i to say anything? lol Last edited by PatR1ck07; 03-19-2008 at 12:30 PM.. | |
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| Training Wheels Joined: Aug 2007 From: Yakima, wa I Ride: Boulevard C50 **SOLD** 2007 SV650 | Being a rider is not about a peice of steel and plastic. It's about the soul behind the machinery. A rider is neither the sum of his experience nor is he the total of the machine that he rides upon. Riding on a bike is an action that anybody can claim, understanding that connection is what makes you a rider. A bike is still a bike without a rider. It is an inanimate object. It sit's. It doesn't do anything. It will rust and fall apart. It doesn't need a rider to be a hunk of man made steel and plastic. It does however, take a rider, not someone riding it but a RIDER to bring out the "soul" in the bike. |
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| Superbiker Joined: Jun 2007 From: Auburn, WA I Ride: TL1000R, GSXR 750 (in pieces), Magna 1100, R6 (track) | |
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| Superbiker Joined: Jun 2007 From: Auburn, WA I Ride: TL1000R, GSXR 750 (in pieces), Magna 1100, R6 (track) | I put some stickers on my bike. I gained 15 hp and 40 mph! |
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| MotoGP Contender Joined: Mar 2006 From: medford, oregon I Ride: there for I am | ![]()
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| MotoGP Contender Joined: Apr 2007 From: soap lake wa. I Ride: 00kaw12r, 97 tls1000, 96gsxr1260 turbo freakshow, kz1300gt, 94 cbr1000f, 88gsxr1100, 86gsxr750, 82gsx1100ez, 79kz1300, 75 ducati750gts, 72 gt550 cafe | just think if you "el marko'd" R1 on it!!!!!! free and clean, Ripp'n |
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| Endorsed Joined: May 2007 From: Toppenish I Ride: 2007 Candy Plasma Blue ZX14 | Yeah, I heard something about putting the "R's" on them makes them faster. I'm thinking about maybe putting like four or five more on mine. ![]() |
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| Training Wheels Joined: Aug 2007 From: Yakima, wa I Ride: Boulevard C50 **SOLD** 2007 SV650 | |
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| Pit Crew Joined: May 2007 From: Somewhere In Wa I Ride: Yamaha | |
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| Endorsed Joined: May 2007 From: Toppenish I Ride: 2007 Candy Plasma Blue ZX14 | Some "R" spoked wheels. ![]() |
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| Pit Crew Joined: Mar 2007 From: yakima, Wa I Ride: 2007 CBR 600RR, 2002 CBR f4i sold, 2002 CBR 954rr sold | What's up! NATIVE? |
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| MotoGP Contender Joined: Apr 2006 From: Spokane Valley, WA I Ride: 2K6 HAYABUSA LE | ok I skipped about half of this post, but I will gladly bring my busa to any dyno to put it up against your (or any) R1. if you have 155 at the crank, you have about 136 to the wheel (guessing on the 17% factor) the busa come stock with 161 (99-07 busa) to the ground, about 177 at the crank. The new 08 busa comes with 190 at the crank and 177 to the wheel... your dreamin if you think your R1 can got HP for HP on a dyno or on the street! If you want to find out, let me know, I will be in seattle on may 17, I will go pound for pound with all the R1s you can find. I have a friend with the R1 limited edition, 1 of 500 made, full akro pipes, power commander race filter, marcheseni wheels, etc and even he knows in a straight line or on a dyno he cant got number for number against a busa... I suggest you get some proof before you start trying to put out facts you dont know much about... just my .02 tho, and I just built an 07 r1 with full graves titanium pipes, filter powr commander, and fully built and motor still around 2k miles, it was putting down about 163 to the wheel... |
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| MotoGP Contender Joined: Apr 2006 From: Spokane Valley, WA I Ride: 2K6 HAYABUSA LE | you guys have alot of valid points by the way, it is mostly in the rider... and i hav no issues with other types of bikes, I am partial to suzuki but i have ridden an 07 r1 as previously mentioned, and a honda cbr 1000 (07) and a 1979 harley davidson... I like them all! but i heavily disagree on the hp numbers that most people claim, i say post your dyno sheet or stop talking about hp if you got nothing to back it up! |
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| Pit Crew Joined: May 2007 From: Somewhere In Wa I Ride: Yamaha | ![]()
![]() well, I love my R1!~ I dont give a Flying Rats ass what anybody says...!~ lol... And Lastly. I dont know much about Busa's and Zx-14's. besides the fact that they are putting out crazy power, and crazy speed. I was coming back from Goldendale with a buddy of mine who has a ZX14 and we were going "a lil faster then we should have" And i was way up in the powerband, and he just ripped right by me like i was standing still ![]() ![]() ... I was very sad to say the least . lol. I dont have dyno charts to prove it, but i know on paper or what the manufacture is claiming the 07's are putting down like 172hp at the crank. But then again, DAMN Yamaha likes to put their numbers a lil higher then they really are. haha... silly Yamaha! lol Anyways... thats all i gotta say. lolLast edited by PatR1ck07; 03-21-2008 at 08:10 AM.. | |
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| Pit Crew Joined: Jul 2007 From: Yakivegas, Washington I Ride: 2004 R6 | I know when we go railin corners, i can't stay with the guys on the litre bikes in the starights, but i have more cornering capability. When we go run the hill next time, you should go. It is a blast! |
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| Training Wheels Joined: Nov 2004 From: Ellensburg, WA I Ride: 2005 Yamaha R1 | Ya, nobody can even come close to catching r6on1 in the corners. I have to wait til the straights to even see him again. |
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| Pit Crew Joined: Jul 2007 From: Yakivegas, Washington I Ride: 2004 R6 | thanks smartass!! |
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