Well spring is here and some will be shopping for a new ride. Well if you are buying a new bike it helps to know what it costs the dealer. Freight and Setup- Total BS The bikes come basically put together- it usually takes very little time from an unskilled person to get them tegether and running. As soon as you hear freight and set up in the hundreds of dollars from a dealer its time to walk.This is where greedy dealers can make something from nothing Hold backs- this is a percentage of cost that is given back to the dealer in 3-6 months-say 3% MSRP-If you are so inclined you can purchase an invoice from http://www.cyclebuy.com for 13 bucks if you want to know invoice cost.The invoice cost will include any holdbacks, a setup allowance and of course the bike If you have more time than money you can usually peruse bike specific forums and someone will know the invoice cost. Finally any reputable dealer will just tell you how much they want for the bike. Not well MSRP, freight blah...-+ yea thats how much. Also a good thing to know is how much is the first service if you choose to do so. Also good to know is how long a wait if I need my bike to be repaired. Does it sit in the pen for 2 weeks while you watch your friends ride? There is more to buying a bike than just outright cost, find a good friendly dealer that likes its customers. Chances are you will be dealing with them far more than just the purchase. If you have warranty issues the dealer makes the call to the manufacturer. If the dealer says its just, it is. Also speak to the techs or shop manager and see if they are knowledgable or idiots-they might be working on your bike and if you have some questions down the road you would like someone smarter than a rock.Remember they have to make a living too so don't think you should get it for what they pay. Just find a fair deal with decent dealer support and it will make owning your new bike much more enjoyable. And -You must post up pics here if you make a purchase.