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Iraqi Hooligans

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Talk' started by Transported, Dec 27, 2010.

  1. Baghdad Journal
    Iraq’s Wild Ones Are Mainly Looking to Impress

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    A young Iraqi performed on his motor scooter at a gathering of motorcycle and scooter riders in the Jadriya district of Baghdad.

    By JOHN LELAND
    Published: December 26, 2010
    New York Times

    BAGHDAD — Just before dusk they begin to arrive, first the motor scooters, then the bigger bikes rolling up in a cloud of leather and noise. For an hour or two each Friday, on a wide boulevard beside the Tigris River, the complexities of Baghdad life give way to a few universal questions: Can I pop a wheelie when people are watching? Can I sneak out of the house without my family noticing? And wouldn’t it be cool if there were girls here?

    On a recent Friday, Ali Hamra, 28, sat on his motorcycle, watching a crowd of about 75 cyclists doing tricks on the machines that are the loves of their lives. Some rode standing upright on their seats or handlebars; others pulled the front wheel in the air; still others spun their rear wheels to create clouds of black smoke. In the United States these tricks would barely turn an eye, but in Iraq the bravado looks like the baby steps of a nascent youth culture, modeled largely — and imperfectly — on a vision from abroad.

    “I feel I am a rebel,” Mr. Hamra said, displaying a forearm tattooed with the logo of the rapper 50 Cent. “We took this as an American style. It’s like the idea of being warriors. Motorcycle people listen to rap or rock — they have their own warrior style.”

    He added: “In America the rebels have their own streets and coffee shops. So we are following them.”

    His friend Ahmed Hassan, 23, wore a Che Guevara T-shirt he had bought in Kurdistan. By his account, he was one of a handful of riders who started the impromptu motorcycle shows in 2002, before the war and sectarian violence drove the riders back into their homes. Now, as security has improved in the last two years, they are back in force, and Mr. Hassan has become something of a minor celebrity, appearing on the news and earning the title Ahmed Damages for his ability to repair broken bikes.

    “It makes me happy to be an idol, a famous person to them,” he said, seated on his bright green dirt bike. “A lot of the original people left the country because they were sick of the security situation, getting harassed by the police. Now I’m teaching a new generation how to do tricks.”

    Sunni and Shiite, the riders came from all parts of the city — defying parents, avoiding the police and hoping for safe passage through a city still dotted with danger zones. A police cruiser kept them under close watch.

    Haider Ahmed, 19, parked his scooter by the side of the road to watch his friends. His family does not approve of his being part of this scene, he said, so he had to sneak out of the house. His brother had threatened to crush his scooter if he caught him in the shows, out of fear for Mr. Ahmed’s safety.

    “When we’re here, we forget everything around us,” Mr. Ahmed said. “Sometimes the police come and stop us, but we come back.” Twice the police stopped him for not having the right license plate and fined him the equivalent of $25.

    Mr. Ahmed, who works in a wire factory, said he spent all of his money and spare time on his bike, as others here do. A trick can take a month to learn and be over in a few seconds. Everybody tries to do a new trick every week.

    “It’s dangerous, and it’s not easy for anyone to learn and dare to do tricks, so that’s why I feel special and different from others,” he said. But he tempered any rebellious swagger with practical caution. “When I come here,” he said, “I’m always afraid someone will catch me.”

    As the sun went down, the riders seemed unwilling to return to their daily lives. One more trick, a last stunt in front of their friends — it was what they lived the rest of the week for, said Ammar Khathim, 22, who wore a T-shirt that said Street Boys.

    Mr. Khathim played down the idea of a motorcycle counterculture. “We are not rebelling against anyone, just the traffic police and the police,” he said.

    Still, he added, riding in Iraq came with particular challenges. Replacement parts are nearly impossible to come by, so the riders had to worry about damaging their bikes.

    And for all the riders’ wistful thoughts of “The Wild One” or “Easy Rider,” one essential element was missing from the scene. Because the sexes in Iraq do not mingle in public for religious reasons, the shows have been a strictly male affair. Riders who have girlfriends say they cannot ride together on the men’s motorcycles.

    “It’s a babe magnet,” said Messar al-Saffar, 33, speaking English, “but in Iraq, it’s hard to get your girlfriend on the back.”

    He added: “It helps with the stress. You cannot imagine. When we go on the highway we forget it and loosen up.”

    Vroom vroom.


    Yasir Ghazi contributed reporting.
     
    Last edited: Dec 27, 2010
  2. Good. You'll see Iraq progress rapidly once the old fucks in power are phased out with the younger generation. They are very different.
     

  3. Are_Six

    Are_Six Moderator Staff Member

    I'll bet they don't have helmet laws either...
     
  4. Insh-allah.
     
  5. Dr. E

    Dr. E Theoretical Propagandist

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  6. Let's hope you're right.
    It'll be interesting to see, but I don't give the country much hope at all. If you've been over there, you know how they still treat women. They also have a shitty tribal system but somehow Saudi Arabia makes it work along with other more modern muslim countries. Until basic fundamentals change, they'll still be stuck in the 8th century. :angry7:
     
  7. they had motorcycles in the 8th century?
     
  8. Here's how you have to ride in Iraq! Fully geared up with rifle in lap!

    Yes this is I and buddy in '08.

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  9. Are_Six

    Are_Six Moderator Staff Member

    Man I'd love to rock that thing in Iraq. Get a Tactical Trunk Monkey to jump on the rear and that's an urban assault vehicle. But it offers little in the way of protection from IED's. Maybe the terrorists would be laughing to hard to press the button.

    Also is the blue tape an accent piece, or is it being held together with masking tape.
     
  10. hey look! they are just as misinformed as the majority of americans!!!

    I really LOVE how they say us US riders have out own coffee shops :rant

    and nobody looks when we do wheelies?

    not so much in SF but they sure do up in the PNW!!!!
     
  11. Ya, 1 horsepower rides. crackup:
     
  12. Yes there are some big differences between what they envision the motorcycle culture here is and reality. But I still say good for them for embracing motorcycles.

    He definately got that aspect right. I know I feel the same way.
     
  13. a Hondi...125...w/ a crash bar

    ok
     
  14. I think it may be an IED deflector. It doesn't exactly strike Mad Max type terror in the local populace, I'm guessing.
     
  15. i'll call bullshit on this


    a. who says "us riders have out own coffee shops"?........?
    first...wtf are you even saying?
    second....what is your deal with "coffee shops and riders"...?

    b. how does doing a wheelie in sf have anything to do or is any different than pnw?
     
  16. Beats planting EFP's and throwing RKG 3's at out elements.

    Seen kids that age do both. I consider this positive.

    Unless f course they are reconnoitering our routes, tactics ETC. I'm sure one of them is at least doing that.
     
  17. Skwrl

    Skwrl Ninja Master

    their bitches wear flipflops, our bitches wear uggs. duh? donny, come on, I thought you were smarter than that.

    alright man, see you at starbucks later.
     

  18. Having never made it out of the star bucks parking lot he feels threatened by those of us who make fun of him.

    BTW, what's your pay pal, I want those scuffed up knee puck s you offered me last season.
     
  19. admittedly some commas and fixing a couple typos would have helped... alot

    but try reading the article..

    they think we all goto fucking starbucks!
    WHY do people think those who ride drink coffee?!

    in SF people dont really stare, quick look and thats it(most of the time.) if you ride a wheelie down the street in portland they will watch you as long as you keep it up.

    now seriously dizzyschultzsomething back off. im really startin to think you must have wood for me or something... I dont swing that way man. :|
     
  20. Wow, you really get that from that statement?

    When I read it, all I see is someone using reference.....not making a statement that all riders do. Plus, they used the term "rebel"....I know I'm not a rebel, maybe that is what's getting your panties in such a wad.
    Are you a rebel? A dangerous rebel?


    Again, what is your deal with coffee and motorcycling?


    BULLSHIT

    just in case you didnt get that.....bullshit.

    You're so fucking full of shit its starting to stink. Not sure whats worse, the bullshit you keep spewing about the differences in SF and Portland or the fact that you actually beleive it.


    nah, persistance is key. If I keep pushing, you're bound to "give in" at anytime.

    I can feel it......you're starting to soften up
     
    Last edited: Dec 28, 2010